since im no longer in the guild, ill leave this here as a source for future/current slingers, but im no longer going to update it, if you have questions you can PM me on basil (FroznSolid), Tk you can delete it anytime you wish, adieu

"The Comprehensive Gunslinger Guide" is good. But it lacks in many areas. Takeback3r hasn't updated the 4th job builds, since no one could agree on them previously (im trying to get that going, i've made 'frameworks' of builds that could go in on his thread).

Kazoo also removed the variety of 3rd job builds, another move i didn't appreciate. The multiple builds allowed for diversity and versitility. not to mention, before they removed it, blaze capsules were dirt cheap.

So, since we have alot of gunslingers, i'll go ahead and post some builds. 3rd and 4th job builds are up (with missing Analysis for 4th Job). Congratulations to ArchPooh for getting 3rd job, DON'T LV PAST ME!

Table of Contents:

-3rd job builds
-4th job builds
-FAQ (answering many arguements in 3rd job)

kk, builds for 3rd Job:

3rd Job Builds

The Mobbing Build

Source: The Gunslinger Guide - Thanks for TakeBack3r for letting me post this:

70: +1 Triple Fire (01)
71: +3 Triple Fire (04)
72: +3 Triple Fire (07)
73: +3 Triple Fire (10)
74: +3 Triple Fire (13)
75: +3 Triple Fire (16)
76: +3 Triple Fire (19)
77: +1 Triple Fire (20) [MAX], +1 Gaviota (01), +1 Cooling Effect (01)
78: +3 Cooling Effect (04)
79: +3 Cooling Effect (07)
80: +3 Cooling Effect (10)
81: +3 Cooling Effect (13)
82: +3 Cooling Effect (16)
83: +3 Cooling Effect (19)
84: +3 Cooling Effect (22)
85: +3 Cooling Effect (25)
86: +1 Cooling Effect (26) [MAX], +2 Fire Burner (02)
87: +3 Fire Burner (05)
88: +3 Fire Burner (08)
89: +3 Fire Burner (11)
90: +3 Fire Burner (14)
91: +3 Fire Burner (17)
92: +3 Fire Burner (20)
93: +3 Fire Burner (23)
94: +3 Fire Burner (26)
95: +2 Fire Burner (29)
96: +1 Fire Burner (30) [MAX], +1 Homing (01), +1 Octopus (01)
97: +3 Octopus (04)
98: +3 Octopus (07)
99: +3 Octopus (10)
100: +3 Octopus (13)
101: +3 Octopus (16)
102: +3 Octopus (19)
103: +3 Octopus (22)
104: +3 Octopus (25)
105: +3 Octopus (28)
106: +2 Octopus (30) [MAX], +1 Gaviota (02)
107: +3 Gaviota (05)
108: +3 Gaviota (08)
109: +3 Gaviota (11)
110: +3 Gaviota (14)
111: +1 Gaviota (15), +2 Homing (03)
112: +3 Homing (06)
113: +3 Homing (09)
114: +3 Homing (12)
115: +3 Homing (15)
116: +3 Homing (18)
117: +3 Homing (21)
118: +3 Homing (24)
119: +3 Homing (27)
120: +3 Homing (30) [MAX]

I <3 Copy & Paste

-I recommend that, it gives the versatility to train at a variety of locations, not rendering training to sniping on Newties. It allows you to have a powerful mobbing combination, which together does much more damage on a mob of 6 then Rapid Fire, even w/o the monsters being fire weak. Of course, in 4th Job, Torpedo crushes them all (unless the monster is fire weak, in which case Fire/Ice combo with Elemental Amplification does more damage [that is not proven through numbers, through numbers fire is behind by like 50%, but since Fire has DoT, i am assuming it would do more damage]).

-K back to the build, Triple Fire is maxed first, making Windraider a great training Spot, along with many others in CWK, Cooling is maxed next to allow you to freeze up to 6 monsters, it is not maxed because the only place you can take points out of w/o sacrificing 4th job skills is Fire, and Fire yields 4% more damage if it is maxed instead of Ice. Fire is maxed next to allow use of the Fire/Ice Combo. Now, Ice is maxed before fire because freezing mobs allows much lower pot usage, some, like Kazoo of Basil, maxed fire before Ice (but doesn't recommend it), allowing mobbing at Nightshadows (True?, just guessing, since Fire/Ice allows best xp at Nightshadows at 9x), but Kazoo expressed it working well at Water Goblins. You use Fire to keep back mobs, Triple Fire to kill the one closest. However, that still runs the risk of them breaking through.

The Newties (aka crazy) build

70: +1 Triple Fire (01)
71: +3 Triple Fire (04)
72: +3 Triple Fire (07)
73: +3 Triple Fire (10)
74: +3 Triple Fire (13)
75: +3 Triple Fire (16)
76: +3 Triple Fire (19)
77: +1 Triple Fire (20) [MAX], +1 Gaviota (01), +1 Cooling Effect (01)
78: +3 Octopus (03)
79: +3 Octopus (06)
80: +3 Octopus (09)
81: +3 Octopus (12)
82: +3 Octopus (15)
83: +3 Octopus (18)
84: +3 Octopus (21)
85: +3 Octopus (24)
86: +3 Octopus (27)
87: +3 Octopus (30)
88: +3 Cooling Effect (04)
89: +3 Cooling Effect (07)
90: +3 Cooling Effect (10)
91: +3 Cooling Effect (13)
92: +3 Cooling Effect (16)
93: +3 Cooling Effect (19)
94: +3 Cooling Effect (22)
95: +3 Cooling Effect (25)
96: +3 Cooling Effect (28)
97: +2 Cooling Effect (30), +1 Gaviota (02)
98: +3 Gaviota (05)
99: +3 Gaviota (08)
100: +3 Gaviota (11)
101: +3 Gaviota (14)
102: +3 Gaviota (17)
103: +3 Gaviota (20)
104: +3 Gaviota (23)
105: +3 Gaviota (26)
106: +3 Gaviota (29)
107: +1 Gaviota (30), +2 Homing (02)
108: +3 Homing (05)
109: +3 Homing (08)
110: +3 Homing (11)
111: +3 Homing (14)
112: +3 Homing (17)
113: +3 Homing (20)
114: +3 Homing (23)
115: +3 Homing (26)
116: +3 Homing (29)
117: +1 Homing (30), +2 Fire Burner (02)
118: +3 Fire Burner (05)
119: +3 Fire Burner (08)
120: +3 Fire Burner (11)

Things to keep in mind:
~1 Homing can be added to at any time
~This build is not recommended and yes, i am biased against it

With this your sniping at newties for 30 levels, not recommended. But for those who love putting bricks on alt and watching tv, here's some analysis:

-This is the 'Standard' Build in KMS and all other versions of Maplestory. However, it has been deemed 'fail' by many. Why? CWK is why. It has many spots where a strong mobbing combo (ice/fire) can be used to get amazing %/hr.

Back onto this build, Burst Fire is maxed first for obvious reasons (-cough strong atk -cough), then you max Octopus to help atk Newties, Cooling helps freeze Newties (lv 1 is enough for the requirement, but since there is nothing else to dump points into), Gaviota gets the next points since it can be used to do some good damage. Key word, *can. Half the time it goes uselessly in the other direction screaming "I can't believe you were stupid enough to put 30 points into me, specially when 15 points in me is enough to unlock Air Strike!". Homing is dumped into next, but because maxing it is not optional. Well it is, but if you don't max it, you give up Bullseye (If you do this, blame your mother, please go smash your head against a wall and hope the wiring comes out right this time around.

Fire Newties Build
70: +1 Triple Fire (01)
71: +3 Triple Fire (04)
72: +3 Triple Fire (07)
73: +3 Triple Fire (10)
74: +3 Triple Fire (13)
75: +3 Triple Fire (16)
76: +3 Triple Fire (19)
77: +1 Triple Fire (20) [MAX], +1 Gaviota (01), +1 Cooling Effect (01)
78: +3 Octopus (03)
79: +3 Octopus (06)
80: +3 Octopus (09)
81: +3 Octopus (12)
82: +3 Octopus (15)
83: +3 Octopus (18)
84: +3 Octopus (21)
85: +3 Octopus (24)
86: +3 Octopus (27)
87: +3 Octopus (30)
88: +3 Cooling Effect (04)
89: +3 Cooling Effect (07)
90: +3 Cooling Effect (10)
91: +3 Cooling Effect (13)
92: +3 Cooling Effect (16)
93: +3 Cooling Effect (19)
94: +3 Cooling Effect (22)
95: +3 Cooling Effect (25)
96: +1 Cooling Effect (26), +3 Gaviota (03)
97: +3 Gaviota (06)
98: +3 Gaviota (09)
99: +3 Gaviota (12)
100: +3 Gaviota (15)
101: +3 Flamethrower (03)
102: +3 Flamethrower (06)
103: +3 Flamethrower (09)
104: +3 Flamethrower (12)
105: +3 Flamethrower (15)
106: +3 Flamethrower (18)
107: +3 Flamethrower (21)
108: +3 Flamethrower (24)
109: +3 Flamethrower (27)
110: +3 Flamethrower (30)
111: +3 Homing (03)
112: +3 Homing (06)
113: +3 Homing (09)
114: +3 Homing (12)
115: +3 Homing (15)
116: +3 Homing (18)
117: +3 Homing (21)
118: +3 Homing (24)
119: +3 Homing (27)
120: +3 Homing (30)

Analysis: I decided to post this build because many showed interest in 30 lv's of Newtie sniping, but this, in my opinion, is a better alternative to the standard Newties build. It sufficiently grows Fire from a dump of points to a useful skill. Fire has many advantages over torpedo, more damage on fire weak mobs when used in conjunction with ice then max torpedo when Elemental Boost is max. You cant jump and atk with Torpedo (you can with fire), in 4th job when you train near mobs with torpedo, when your ship breaks this allows you to be able to handle mobs, something Rapid Fire/Burst Shot can't do because of bad damage and minimum firing range.

Many object against this build because you don't use flamethrower in 3rd job (when it is meant to be used, they say), and Gaviota is weakened. I have obvious answers to them:

-Lv 15 Gaviota and lv 30 Gaviota has a 25% damage difference. the point of gaviota can be forfilled by both.
-On the other hand, Flamethrower, with the standard build, is a dump of points. Lv 11 Flamethrower has no purpose. Lv 26+ flamethrower, however, does.

On the build i chose to leave ice at 26, if you want you can max it and leave fire at 26, i just didn't for reasons posted in the Mobbing Build (more damage, ice damage doesn't matter in 4th, in 3rd it has a minimal impact at newties)

~The guide is continued further down [stupid post too long thing]

well i think you shouldnt make it just a slinger.... if you really want to help ppl make it for all classes

i don't know that much about other jobs =/. except sins. plus we have ALOT of slingers. nearly every1 has 1 noob slinger lying around

EDIT: continued guide here: [stupid post too long thing]



My Custom Build - a Pro-training Hybrid

120 - 1 Ship, 1 Torp, 1 Elemental Boost
121 - 2 cannon, 1 Air Strike
122 - 5 cannon
123 - 8 cannon
124 - 11 cannon
125 - 14 cannon
126 - 17 cannon
127 - 20 cannon
128 - 23 cannon
129 - 26 cannon
130 - 29 cannon
131 - 30 cannon, 3 torp
132 - 6 torp
133 - 9 torp
134 - 12 torp
135 - 15 torp
136 - 18 torp
137 - 21 torp
138 - 3 bullseye
139 - 6 bullseye
140 - 9 bullseye
141 - 12 bullseye
142 - 15 bullseye
143 - 18 bullseye
144 - 20 bullseye, 22 torp
145 - 25 torp
146 - 28 torp
147 - 30 torp, 2 ship
148 - 5 ship
149 - 8 ship
150 - 10 ship, 2 Air Strike
151 - 5 Air Strike
152 - 8 Air Strike
153 - 11 Air Strike
154 - 14 Air Strike
155 - 17 Air Strike
156 - 20 Air Strike
157 - 23 Air Strike
158 - 26 Air Strike
159 - 29 Air Strike
160 - 30 Air Strike, 3 Elemental Boost
161 - 6 Elemental Boost
162 - 9 Elemental Boost
163 - 12 Elemental Boost
164 - 15 Elemental Boost
165 - 18 Elemental Boost
166 - 21 Elemental Boost
167 - 24 Elemental Boost
168 - 27 Elemental Boost
169 - 30 Elemental Boost
170 - 3 Rapid Fire
171 - 6 Rapid Fire
172 - 9 Rapid Fire
173 - 12 Rapid Fire
174 - 15 Rapid Fire
175 - 18 Rapid Fire
176 - 21 Rapid Fire
177 - 24 Rapid Fire
178 - 27 Rapid Fire
179 - 30 Rapid Fire
180 - 3 Wrath of Octopi
181 - 6 Wrath of Octopi
182 - 9 Wrath of Octopi
183 - 12 Wrath of Octopi
184 - 15 Wrath of Octopi
185 - 18 Wrath of Octopi
186 - 20 Wrath of Octopi, 1 Maple Warrior
187 - 4 Maple Warrior
188 - 7 Maple Warrior
189 - 10 Maple Warrior
190 - 13 Maple Warrior
191 - 16 Maple Warrior
192 - 19 Maple Warrior
193 - 22 Maple Warrior
194 - 25 Maple Warrior
195 - 28 Maple Warrior
196 - 30 Maple Warrior, 1 Hypnotize
197 - +3 Free Points
198 - +3 Free Points
199 - +3 Free Points
200 - +3 Free Points

~1 Point to Rapid Fire will be added to KB bosses in early 13x
~If you do not find parties to leech MW off of, it should be added to on a as-necessary basis to the next KO whatever monster your training on
~Depending on which map you will be training on, if you will have big mobs, Elemental Boost should be maxed before Rapid Fire, if you don't have mobs of more then 4 easily, then Rapid Fire should be maxed first. [im not quite sure where a corsair would train 16x-17x, so im leaving this as a footnote, and odds are you will max Rapid Fire, i put Elemental Blow up there so people don't shut their eyes to the possibility)
~1 point can be added to Hypnotize whenever you want, but its recommended to get it after maxing cannon


Bossing Build Framework

120 - 1 Rapid Fire, 1 Wrath of Octopi, 1 Elemental Boost
121 - 1 Battleship, 2 cannon
122 - 5 cannon
123 - 8 cannon
124 - 11 cannon
125 - 14 cannon
126 - 17 cannon
127 - 20 cannon
128 - 23 cannon
129 - 26 cannon
130 - 29 cannon
131 - 30 cannon, 2 bullseye
132 - 5 bullseye
133 - 8 bullseye
134 - 11 bullseye
135 - 14 bullseye
136 - 17 bullseye
137 - 20 bullseye
138 - 4 ship
139 - 7 ship
140 - 10 ship
141 - 3 torp
142 - 6 torp
143 - 9 torp
144 - 12 torp
145 - 15 torp
146 - 18 torp
147 - 21 torp
148 - 24 torp
149 - 27 torp
150 - 30 torp
151 - 4 Rapid Fire
152 - 7 Rapid Fire
153 - 10 Rapid Fire
154 - 13 Rapid Fire
155 - 16 Rapid Fire
156 - 19 Rapid Fire
157 - 22 Rapid Fire
158 - 25 Rapid Fire
159 - 28 Rapid Fire
160 - 30 Rapid Fire, 1 Air Strike
161 - 4 Air Strike
162 - 7 Air Strike
163 - 10 Air Strike
164 - 13 Air Strike
165 - 16 Air Strike
166 - 19 Air Strike
167 - 22 Air Strike
168 - 25 Air Strike
169 - 28 Air Strike
170 - 30 Air Strike, 2 Wrath of Octopi
171 - 5 Wrath of Octopi
172 - 8 Wrath of Octopi
173 - 11 Wrath of Octopi
174 - 14 Wrath of Octopi
175 - 17 Wrath of Octopi
176 - 20 Wrath of Octopi
177 - 4 Elemental Boost
178 - 7 Elemental Boost
179 - 10 Elemental Boost
180 - 13 Elemental Boost
181 - 16 Elemental Boost
182 - 19 Elemental Boost
183 - 22 Elemental Boost
184 - 25 Elemental Boost
185 - 28 Elemental Boost
186 - 30 Elemental Boost, 1 Maple Warrior
187 - 4 Maple Warrior
188 - 7 Maple Warrior
189 - 10 Maple Warrior
190 - 13 Maple Warrior
191 - 16 Maple Warrior
192 - 19 Maple Warrior
193 - 22 Maple Warrior
194 - 25 Maple Warrior
195 - 28 Maple Warrior
196 - 30 Maple Warrior, 1 Hypnotize
197 - +3 Free Points
198 - +3 Free Points
199 - +3 Free Points
200 - +3 Free Points

~1 Point to Rapid Fire will be added to KB bosses in early 13x
~If you do not find parties to leech MW off of, it should be added to on a as-necessary basis to the next KO whatever monster your training on
~1 point can be added to Hypnotize whenever you want, but its recommended to get it after maxing cannon
~If someone actually attempts this build without leeching their way up, add 1 point to Air Strike either at 120 (in place of wrath of Octopi) or anytime after Cannon is level 11.

Training Build

120 - 1 Ship, 1 Torp, 1 Elemental Boost
121 - 2 cannon, 1 Air Strike
122 - 5 cannon
123 - 8 cannon
124 - 11 cannon
125 - 14 cannon
126 - 17 cannon
127 - 20 cannon
128 - 23 cannon
129 - 26 cannon
130 - 29 cannon
131 - 30 cannon, 3 torp
132 - 5 torpedo
133 - 8 torpedo
134 - 12 torpedo
135 - 15 torpedo
136 - 18 torpedo
137 - 21 torpedo
138 - 4 Air Strike
139 - 7 Air Strike
140 - 10 Air Strike
141 - 13 Air Strike
142 - 16 Air Strike
143 - 19 Air Strike
144 - 21 Air Strike, 1 Maple Warrior
145 - 4 Maple Warrior
146 - 7 Maple Warrior
147 - 10 Maple Warrior
148 - 13 Maple Warrior
149 - 16 Maple Warrior
150 - 19 Maple Warrior
151 - 22 Maple Warrior
152 - 25 Maple Warrior
153 - 28 Maple Warrior
154 - 30 Maple Warrior, 22 Torpedo
155 - 25 Torpedo
156 - 28 Torpedo
157 - 30 Torpedo, 22 Air Strike
158 - 25 Air Strike
159 - 28 Air Strike
160 - 30 Air Strike, 2 Battleship
161 - 5 Battleship
162 - 8 Battleship
163 - 10 Battleship, 1 Rapid Fire
164 - 4 Rapid Fire
165 - 7 Rapid Fire
166 - 10 Rapid Fire
167 - 13 Rapid Fire
168 - 16 Rapid Fire
169 - 19 Rapid Fire
170 - 22 Rapid Fire
171 - 25 Rapid Fire
172 - 28 Rapid Fire
173 - 30 Rapid Fire, 2 Elemental Boost
174 - 5 Elemental Boost
175 - 8 Elemental Boost
176 - 11 Elemental Boost
177 - 14 Elemental Boost
178 - 16 Elemental Boost, 1 Bullseye
179 - 4 Bullseye
180 - 7 Bullseye
181 - 10 Bullseye
182 - 13 Bullseye
183 - 16 Bullseye
184 - 19 Bullseye
185 - 20 Bullseye, 2 Wrath of Octopi
186 - 5 Wrath of Octopi
187 - 8 Wrath of Octopi
188 - 11 Wrath of Octopi
189 - 14 Wrath of Octopi
190 - 17 Wrath of Octopi
191 - 20 Wrath of Octopi
192 - 19 Elemental Boost
193 - 22 Elemental Boost
194 - 25 Elemental Boost
195 - 28 Elemental Boost
196 - 30 Elemental Boost, 1 Hypnotize
197 - +3 Free Point
198 - +3 Free Point
199 - +3 Free Point
200 - +3 Free Point

~1 Point to Rapid Fire will be added to KB bosses in early 13x
~If you do not find parties to leech MW off of, it should be added to on a as-necessary basis to the next KO whatever monster your training on
~1 point can be added to Hypnotize whenever you want, but its recommended to get it after maxing cannon

Well, this is a work-in-progress, i'll edit this later with analysis.



1. Why put points in fire in 3rd job, when it is unused afterwards?

The most common, and among the stupidest argument against Fire in 3rd job. At this rate, we shouldn't add points to Invisi either, since its unused after lv 74 (which burst fire overpowers it).

Fire is used in 4th job. It is useful jumping and attacking mobs (since you cant jump and attack with torpedo), and when your ship breakers (unless you choose early-Rapid Fire [not recommended]), to do serious damage to mobs of skeles. Invisi is NOT used after lv 74 at all. I will be taking it off my keyboard. If you do not put atleast 26 points in Fire, don't bother with Invisi.

Another reason why you should: What else would you put points into?

Gaviota is simply a dump of points. lv 15 is enough to unlock Air Strike, maxing it is a dump of points. the 25% increase in damage is not worth it.

Also, the things you can use Gaviota for (mass summoning before bosses, sneaking a few in between hits [not recommended]) can all be forfilled by lv 15 Gaviota just as well as lv 30 Gaviota. Fire, on the other hand, is a dump of points at lv 11. Only at lv 26+ is it a real attack. If you don't max it, its like the Grenade of 3rd job [except much more useful maxed].

2. Why not max Ice and leave fire at 26?

Another ill-conceived arguement. Maxing Fire allows you to get an extra 4% per ice/fire combo in 3rd job.

That could be 50-60 damage, which, while seems miniscule, across mobs of 5-6 monsters, that increases to 250-360 damage, and when you 5-6 hit KO monsters, that gap increases to 1250-2160 damage lost. It can be the difference between a 5 hit KO, or a 6 hit KO.

[Wall of Text Alert]

In 4th job, the extra 8% in ice will NEVER be the difference between a 3 or a 4 hit KO. the numbers from Cannon and Torpedo will overshadow it disproportionately, and the increase of 500-720 damage of an attack used once on a mob (most corsairs can kill skele/newtie mobs with just 1 freeze, many in their 14x-15x don't even need to freeze them, they can kill them before their m. atk finally atks) will NOT get you a 1 hit less KO. There are simply much bigger numbers at work (compare the 500-720 damage ONCE to the barrage of 40k cannons and 20k torpedo's (to mobs of 5-6 when talking about torpedo).

EDIT: 4th job builds have been added, they should also be added onto the "Comprehensive Gunslinger Guide" soon, i perfected them on the thread (5 hours of labor, i forgot how to add D=).

I'll put up Analysis soon, and remember ask questions, so i can expand the FAQ section.

we did have a corsair, blissum, for a while but he has since moved on since he was in australia (funky timezone)

and go for it!..be sure to title your guide something pertaining to gunslingers so ppl know!

Yea I'll be working on my baby girl gunner soonish (Same act as TK so no leech until I get to 4th with my I/L ) so this will help even me! We do have many gunners level 50 and under, and I know one or two that stopped because they didn't know what to do.

And it would be too hard for him to make builds for other classes. If I tried making a DK build, I would fail those who read it, QUITE miserably! LOL

I think something you should focus a lot on too, is Fire or Ice? my personal opinion is max fire, but I see a lot of people asking on other forums. Its a good topic. GL with it!

You can't quote people? Darn.

anyway, i put it in the 'gunslinger' section, so i assumed people would know its gunslinger 3rd and 4th job builds. im not sure how to change the title tho. Help please TK?

and sorry i havn't been able to work on it for a while, i'll try to put some up (specially 3rd job ones) before going to sleep tonight.

and how do you guys get that on your signature? the player name, background, level, xp, etc etc?

no answers? ^^

kk i added in the mobbing build. anything i should change? Any recommendations? Opinions?

Did i encourage anyone to grind their Gunslingers up?

i'll be grinding mine with the 2x fridays...hopefully i'll make it to 3rd soonishly. thanks for all this info. considering im still learning the class i can't offer feedback, but it looks good

and no one better be "putting bricks on alt and watching tv" with the sniping. that's a form of botting and a big no-no

oh and here's your sig...changing the background, erm ask tk

ok thanks, yea i found out how to do it thanks to your PM.

and does it update the leveling by itself? Unfortunately i can only utilize 1 out of 3 2x events on fridays

anyway thanks for good feedback, hopefully i helped you out with what you will be doing in 3rd job.

It updates every 24 hours, about the BG u log into MSGuild.org (Your the only one who added your own character, I like that excitement! <3) Go to your character and hit Edit. Id say keep it light bkz u cant change the writing color.

The guide looks great! I personally will be doing the Newtie build. And, I may be wrong, but I didn't think Nightshadows were able to be frozen? I'd test with my i/l but she's much too weak to even try. Sadly, I'm looking forward to the 34564353 levels of Newtie Sniping, I like Minidungeons <3 I really hate having to keep TK logged out in the same map where I'm training.

Quick question about 2nd job, what do you think our skills should be by lv 70? Im only 54 and not sure if everything gets maxed or I leave something a lone LOL

TaintedKrys wrote:

It updates every 24 hours, about the BG u log into MSGuild.org (Your the only one who added your own character, I like that excitement! <3)

I personally will be doing the Newtie build. And, I may be wrong, but I didn't think Nightshadows were able to be frozen? I really hate having to keep TK logged out in the same map where I'm training.

Quick question about 2nd job, what do you think our skills should be by lv 70? Im only 54 and not sure if everything gets maxed or I leave something a lone LOL

k, i only left the part of your post that i had questions about.

skills on 2nd? Max everything except Grenade, if you got max SSK in 1st job (like me), put Max Bullet time (or the 1st job skill you left off for SSK, usually its bullet time), if you didn't max SSK and maxed bullet time in 1st job, just dump points in Grenade.

so the maple-guild thing updates automatically every 24 hours? What does "about the BG you log onto MSGuild.org" mean? and what do you mean "Your the only one who added your own character"? wouldn't everyone that registered there have to, to get the signature thing?

True, you can't freeze night shadows, but fire can be alternated with burst fire and you can stun nightshadows, and you have recoil for getting away from mobs. Plus, other options for the ice/fire build include gobies, himes, practically all mob monsters in CWK.

And you don't need a priest for himes, since you have freeze, HP costs will be far below what other priest-less jobs have to encounter. Why were you planning to go newties build? You don't think me saying "versatility of training" stood for "just nightshadows" did you?

k hoped that helped, glad your training your slinger again im getting 3rd job next week

I lived in Himes for far too long. I mean I want to go the way of Newtie Sniping, its the only Minidungeon that is good for levels 90-120+. I never like having to keep TK logged out where Im training to defend my map. Im almost always solo and hate seeing people in my map.

I added everyone on the roster list. I wasn't saying it was a bad thing that you did. You log in at MSguild.org, go to your character, go to Edit and upload a Background image, click save and snag the link. Anyone that is loaded onto the website can use the signatures by adding their names into the image URL. If you look at the rankings underneath everyones guildname it says who uploaded that character.

i kind of like the idea of newties sniping as well since LauraPalmer kind of skipped over newties and the whole dungeon privacy appeals to me. ty for the different builds!

Lol, ok, if you guys like the idea of 80-130 at Newties, so be it.

I prefer mobbing and pwning monsters in CWK/himes/etc etc:)

EDIT: the 4th job builds are up there, :f19:ill add analysis in a bit

EDIT2: FAQ is also up there, ask questions so i can expand it!

Yea been there done that XD its diff when you already have a 4th job chara, the quietness appeals to us oldies lol

TestTEst

Can i post now?

EDIT; hurray! its letting me post.

Kk, i have a 15 gaviota/26 FT build in the tunnel, so you can newites snipe and still have fire to use in 4th job when ship is dead/you need to jump and atk a mob

cool, where is it? or are you just saying stop gaviota at 15, etc?

ps- i got the lvl 60 overall already 100% scrolled for dex the day after you outbid on that other

dang. lol. i have to scroll that one for 100% dex.

nah, it orders the skills in same as the newties build, but doesn't max gaviota in favour of max/near-max Fire

EDIT: finished it the morning i left the guild, so its there